It’s time for supply chain. Now broadcasting live from the supply chain capital of the country. Atlanta, Georgia heard around the world. Supply chain. Now spotlights the best in all things. Supply chain, the people, the technologies, the best practices and the critical issues of the day. And now here are your hosts.

Scott Luton (00:00:28):

Hey, good morning, Scott Luton and team with you here at supply chain. Now welcome back to today’s show. We have got a very special episode teed up today. This is our 400 episode. Holy cow. Unbelievable. Alright, so we’re going to change the conversation a bit. We’re going to flip it inward and we’re going to really hear what our team members think what their favorite episodes are and why as we celebrate this milestone in our, in our journey here, Hey, quick programming of before we get started, if you enjoy today’s episode, which is a bit unique, uh, be sure to check us out, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts from, okay. To our audience. We’re going to move real fast today. We’ve got five team members own with us right now. We’ve got a couple other team members we’re going to be reconnecting with this afternoon and we’re going to move fast and kind of get a sense of who, who everyone is. You know, a little bit about themselves in a nutshell, we’re going to find out what their favorite episode has been and the trillion dollar question. Why? So we’re going to start with Tricia Cortas Trisha. Good morning and morning. So you are a dialed in from where

Trisha Cordes (00:01:47):

I’m dialed in from Cincinnati, Ohio,

Scott Luton (00:01:49):

Cincinnati, home of skyline chili and LA it’s the size of school city. So you’re, you’re a lead off hitter today on our 400th episode, which is crazy. Tricia, tell us a little about yourself, including what you do here at spotlight. Now

Trisha Cordes (00:02:03):

A little bit personally, like you said, I’m from Cincinnati. I mean, I’ve been married to my husband for 21 years. It’s hard to believe. We know we’re having fun. Cause time glide, we have a few boys, Carson and Caleb they’re eight and 12. So they keep us very busy where I’m a swim mom, a basketball mom. Um, we’re always on the go. Coronas helps a little to slow us down and give us a little extra time. You know, personally, I’m always the one taking pictures. That’s kind of my family name. You know, everyone’s like, Oh, she’s got us covered. So we love being out enjoying nature and hiking and visiting the mountains and the beach, whatever we can, as far as professionally, I actually knew at the age of probably the sixth, which my siblings did not appreciate that I wanted to be a teacher.

Trisha Cordes (00:02:48):

So I went to college to be a teacher and taught elementary for 20 years, including first, third and fourth graders. And that season was awesome. Like that was one of the best job ever. And I’ve made so many connections and relationships. Actually. I have first graders that even now are in college and married and I still follow up and connect with. So that’s really cool. But as I became a mom of my own, I was missing out on so much. That’s when I kind of used my entrepreneurial spirit and I started my own business, which is how I got connected with supply three. Now about four years ago, I started my business as a virtual assistant. I was pretty much with the teaching mindset. Like if you’ll teach me, I know I can do it, but it’s changed and evolved over time. And now I mostly work with podcasts.

Trisha Cordes (00:03:33):

I mean, I was lucky to connect with Amanda on LinkedIn. And so that started our relationship that brought me here, here. I do a couple different things. I helped schedule and get everything organized. And on the calendar, if anyone’s scheduling anything through email, they most likely talk to me and we get everybody scheduled and make sure they have all the information they need and where they need to be. And all that. My other main job is podcast production. That means getting together all the bios, any information we need, including graphics, just getting everything ready so we can get the podcast scheduled and out to all of the listeners

Scott Luton (00:04:09):

As a ton of work and really appreciate what you do. You know, when, when we publish, which is pretty unique for at least a big chunk of the podcast industry, you know, we’re publishing content Monday through Friday, sometimes Saturday, like today, I said, I have a real pro that knows how to publish and produce all these shows and does it in such an outstanding professional manner, huge, huge help to the business. So really appreciate what you do, Trisha and love your love, your journey that you were sharing earlier. So what has been as all these episodes hit your space, your desk, whatever what’s been your favorite episode, that’s really stuck out and why?

Trisha Cordes (00:04:47):

So I’m newer to the supply chain industry. So as a teacher, I’m trying to learn as much as I can and absorb it as fast as I can, even though in our life, we actually live the supply chain because my husband is a branch manager for a pool distributor. So we kind of live it, but I didn’t know a ton about it. So for me, it was episode three 73, which was, Amanda’s actually first episode. It was like the quick timeout about Corona. And the reason for me is, you know, I loved hearing everyone’s perspective on where we kind of were at that time because it was a bit of a challenge for me, especially at first. And that’s why I really related to Amanda a lot because we were in kind of the same situation. So I was used to working at home full time, just doing my own little thing, why the kids are at school and then Corona hit. And I was working full time at home. I’m doing remote learning refereeing and giving snacks all day. So things kind of changed. So for me, it was just really that episode, like hearing kind of everyone’s perspective and just really relating to Amanda and kind of seeing what’s going on. I know in kind of that I wasn’t in this alone kind of, so that’s, that was definitely my, I love

Scott Luton (00:05:58):

That. Well, you’ve set a high bar on this first segment of our 400 episode Tricia. And just like we thought, you said you were getting out of your comfort zone by being on the show. I think you’re a natural Tricia. I mean, everybody else nod their hand there. She’s really good. So thanks so much for taking some time out of your morning and joining us here today and sharing some of your perspectives. So we really appreciate what you do and all what you’ve contributed to our journey. All right. So we’re gonna move right along from Trisha Cortez to Devin riddle. So Devin, good morning. Hey, doing okay.

Devon Riddle (00:06:33):

Hey, good morning, Scott. How are you

Scott Luton (00:06:35):

Doing great. Yeah, your background for folks that may be listening and not, not seeing what a gorgeous fall morning, that bad guy I think of picking apples and going out and looking at the foliage. W what does that a shot from? Well, that’s actually my beautiful campus

Devon Riddle (00:06:52):

Mountains in Virginia. I attend Southern Virginia university and that’s where I get to wake up to every single morning of that university. It’s kind of nice with the exception of when it snows, then it’s beautiful, even with that.

Scott Luton (00:07:04):

All right. So Devin, what’s really interesting about you is you go coast to coast. Devin riddle is coast to coast. He is, uh, an undergraduate at what school in Virginia, Southern Virginia university, Southern Virginia university. However, he is from the West coast, uh, in Oregon, right? Devin, Portland, Oregon, Portland, Oregon. Okay. So tell us more about yourself, including what you do here at splotchy. Now,

Devon Riddle (00:07:32):

As I said, I attended SOG university SVU go nights, and I’m studying business with supply chain focus and a minor in computer science. I have a passion for reverse logistics. You’ll understand why a little bit. And I absolutely love working with people. I’m also a drummer. I play my university’s orchestra and that’s really fun. And I really much enjoy Spanish culture and studying that. I did that for about two years of my life, serving a mission for my church, learning Spanish, and now speaking it and using it in the industry. So it’s pretty cool. And then so up supply chain now, man, this is such a great company to work for. And I have been trying to just say something it’s, it’s amazing working with wonderful people that have great leadership skills that I can grow and don’t want to harness to develop myself professionally.

Devon Riddle (00:08:25):

It’s wonderful people like Scott and Greg. Wow. They, they know their stuff. Well, let me back up for the quakes. I’m just an intern here, kind of the groundwork in a way, but we’re all kind of grant workers is the discussion. I do the analytics as well as Instagram guru. I’d like to say, so if there’s any posts that you don’t really like, it’s probably my fault, but I’m trying to work every single day to do the best I can. But yeah, that’s pretty much my responsibility here at supply chain now. And I love every single part of it. And minute of it,

Scott Luton (00:09:00):

I love, I wish we could dive into each of y’all for an hour or two, because there’s so much fascinating backdrop behind each of y’all and your journeys and your passions in life. What have you? I got a challenge at Devin. We got to delete that word. Just no one is just anything. And while technically you may be an intern, technically you and Genoa, which we’ll talk to it momentarily. It brings so much to the team and so important. We’ve learned so much from y’all. So no one is just anything. And I love all the passion and expertise you bring the table. So Devin, what has been one of your favorite episodes and tell us why

Devon Riddle (00:09:41):

Adia freed is by far my favorite death’s ever been a supply chain. Now specifically in episode two 91, where she talked about the reverse logistics portion of industry’s getting devices that are maybe have a flock to it and then refurbishing it and reselling it and using the funds, which are given for scholarships for students. Come on now, you can’t beat that. I listen to that and I was like, that’s what I want to do. And taking a course, it really connected taking a course of my university careers. The biggest issue of people in industries is, is transitioning from industry to industry because they get burnt out because they don’t have a basis of what they feel is most important. And that the longevity period and something like reverse logistics, I had passion with and just learning about that. It really would it grow my mind about what to be like, Hey, I can do this for a long, long time and man, highest way smart. I listened to her episodes and I’m just like, man, that, that’s why I wouldn’t be.

Scott Luton (00:10:52):

We know we’ve got a lot of feedback around that episode. That episode was that her first appearance was taped at the reverse logistics association conference, Amanda and Greg and Vicki. And I were all out there covering that. We probably knocked out 11, 12 interviews and you’re right. Devin, Claudia brings a lot to the table and an EA L green, which is her business. Her organization is a very unique business, dedicated to sustainability and the circular economy while doing great things, as you suggest with some of the proceeds from that. So, uh, we’re big fans of Claudia as well,

Devon Riddle (00:11:25):

Like you said.

Scott Luton (00:11:28):

So Devin love what you bring to the table. Thanks so much for joining us here today and sharing one of your favorite episodes. We’re gonna have to get you a Claudia free tee shirt. Maybe that’d be in the hopper or something. Thanks Scott. Alright, moving right along. Let’s move over to Genoa Smith Genoa. Good morning. So glad to have you with us here today. Uh, we started in Cincinnati with Tricia and then we went to the West coast in Oregon, Portland, Oregon with Devin. And now we’re back on the East coast and Genoa. Tell us where you’re your dad.

Janoah Smith (00:12:01):

So I’m from Baltimore, Maryland, specifically the Pikesville area. Um, I am a rising senior supply chain management major at Morgan state university. I am also the incoming president of apex from Oregon state university chapter. I also, one of my passions is modeling. So I’m also the ms. Fashion at Morgan and Morgan state university and supply chain. Now is I’m an intern focusing on outreach and networking

Scott Luton (00:12:30):

Outstanding, and a ton of due diligence. Genoa has got a knack for, for building files on, on all types of research topics. So, and Genoa, I learned something new to hear today. I think we all did. You’ve got a passion for modeling, is that

Janoah Smith (00:12:45):

Yes. So I have been modeling for about two years now. Um, last year I tried out for a modeling organization and actually ended up being accepted and now I am the next of the organization. So my job is to reach out to new models and get them to want to basically be an organization. And basically like the princess. He does like all the community service work. So yeah,

Scott Luton (00:13:08):

Outstanding. Well, who knows, maybe there’s a also fashion supply chain in your future, down the road a bit, but love what you do here. You bring a lot to the table. It was a pleasure meeting you for the first time out in Arizona, as we were at the, a diverse manufacturing and supply chain Alliance event, great event, uh, looking forward to reconnecting with David Burton, uh, next week. And we sat down and interviewed Genoa and several of her fellow students from Morgan state university and just, they were hitting home runs. It’s amazing to see just how far these undergrad, these talented undergrad students are today. How far ahead they were at least when I was in school now, as I think I’ve shared with most of y’all, my head was on beer and pizza and college, and look at what Devin and Jenna were doing. So it’s really not things short of. Amazing. Okay. Genoa your, what is your, one of your favorite episodes and why?

Janoah Smith (00:14:02):

So my favorite episode is episode three 63 with Tia Thomas by three. I really enjoyed the episode because I felt like it gave us who are still an undergrad, a voice. And that’s really important, especially because we’re trying to grow the major, especially here on the East coast. It’s really crappy on the West coast, but some schools on the East coast, especially in Maryland, don’t have a supply chain need. So just for people to hear from our standpoint, and to actually hear that we’re excited about it, it will help other people get excited about it.

Scott Luton (00:14:35):

Great point. And we all know the challenge that we, that the industry has and really competing for top talent like Devin and Genoa and getting them into industry, you know, supply chain is competing for top talent, arguably, uh, like never before. So I love your thoughts there, Genoa and, and for folks that may have missed

Scott Luton (00:14:52):

That episode with Latiya tell us about your connection with TIAA.

Janoah Smith (00:14:55):

So I actually met with Tio when I changed my major to supply chain. I was actually an industrial engineer major efforts, and I changed it to supply chain. And what year was the first person to reach out to me and my classes. And she was kind of like, you gotta get an apex, you gotta do this, you gotta do that. And so she kind of became like my big sister in a way. And she really has helped me with everything supply chain and she was the president last year. And, um,

Scott Luton (00:15:24):

Outstanding, you know, I love that. And now you’re succeeding her as one of the leading APEC student chapters in the country as kind of at the helm as president. So looking forward to kind of seeing the Mark, you leave on the organization, of course, we’re going to support you however we can. So thank you for joining us here this morning, Genoa and thanks so much for what you do to contribute to our overall success here at splotching now. Okay. Continuing right along our next guest here is Chris Barnes, the legendary Chris Barnes. You know, Amanda, I don’t know, we won’t talk, talk about this very much, but Chris was one of the first folks not named diluted that I met in Atlanta years ago. And it’s such a pleasure to collaborate with great people and long time friends. And that’s what we do here at supply chain now.

Scott Luton (00:16:11):

So Chris, tell us about a good morning, first off. Good morning. Thank you, Scott. Yeah, you and I have been, you and I have been talking supply chain for a long time is right. Uh, and, and most of it’s been true. So, so tell us, Chris, it’s tough to do it in a nutshell. I know that you’ve done a lot of things in your career and in, in your journey, but tell our listeners a little about yourself. Well, thanks again. Uh, Scott, I’m a, I’m actually a practitioner. So I’m out there doing supply chain stuff all the time, primarily on the outbound side, warehousing logistics, transportation side, but for supply chain. Now I basically working in podcast editing. I used to think I was a producer until Trisha told me, she told me she was a producer. So I think she’s my internal customer. So I, I have the opportunity to listen to all the good interviews that we have, the content and, you know, kind of slice and dice and splice and do all that good stuff.

Chris Barnes (00:17:01):

So when you hear it, it’s actually, it’s, it’s improved quality stuff. Um, so I have great content to start with. That’s the first thing. And then my other role is essentially finding companies or people that may be able to benefit from participating or being involved with supply chain. Now, if there’s anyone out there that’s interested in helping us reach episode 800, you feel free to give me a shout and you know, they’ll figure out how you can help us do that. We might hit 800 next month. I don’t know, but I know, I know your editor, so you gotta take it easy on him. Well, before we talk about one of your favorite episodes, tell us more about supply chain is boring. That has really made a splash in the market. Another thing I do Scott is I’m a teacher or a facilitator. Edutainer whatever you want to call it more for adult learners, specifically around supply chain content.

Chris Barnes (00:17:47):

So I, with local universities and companies to help educate people and train them on swatching concepts, whether they’re interested in job transition or anything else. So that’s, that’s really what my focus is, is kind of taking practical supply chain concepts and making them real to people’s learning. And that’s what I enjoy listening to some of this content here. So what we did is we started supply chain is boring. So I’m the host on that, that chair. And what we do is we really try to find practical ways that people are using these concepts that we’re talking about. So some of the supply chain now talks about that, but what we do is we look at some of the historical perspective. You know, for example, I’ve talked to professors, I talked to people that started companies, you know, 40, 50 years ago. So that’s a fun piece of it to me. I love it.

Scott Luton (00:18:31):

The name, the name catches a lot of people. What’d you say?

Chris Barnes (00:18:36):

And sometimes when I’m done with an episode, I say, man, that was really boring.

Scott Luton (00:18:40):

I loved that. Not to steal your thunder, but, uh, one of my favorite episodes you did was that to partner with Norman.

Chris Barnes (00:18:48):

Yes. Yeah. Fascinating.

Scott Luton (00:18:50):

He’s, he’s been there and done it a thousand times. It really a legendary figure in industry and he had some outstanding stories and I love your style where, you know, it’s always about the guests and it’s always about getting them to share their experiences. It’s never about the host and, and

Scott Luton (00:19:06):

We’re kindred spirits in that regard. So, yeah. Okay. So Chris, tell us

Scott Luton (00:19:11):

You’re one or two of your favorite episodes and

Chris Barnes (00:19:14):

Thank you for throwing that too in there, Scott, I appreciate that gives me a little flexibility to sell more. So I have about 399 favorite episodes, but more from the, I guess the recency effect I’m going to go with, uh, Javier DSV. They own, uh, Rick McDonald and, uh, Jasmine Crowe from gooder. Those were, uh, it was three 98, three 93 and three 90 specifically, if you’re looking, those were just they’re, they’re very, it’s not really so much about the process as much as it is about leadership styles. It’s the kind of giving back to the community. It’s making things better. And whether we’re talking about pandemics or just understanding your people, that the one with Javier really, really resonated because, you know, he took, the guy is so humble. He’s a pretty powerful figure in global trade in Mexican economy and Mexican government. And the guy is so humble and you can just hear it in that interview. That was, that was pretty Rick McDonald, same thing, you know, you’re talking, you’re listening to what he’s talking about. You’re trying to make edits. And, and he starts talking about, you know, frontline workers and he knows their names. Yeah. That was pretty powerful stuff. That’s leadership style and then Jasmine with good or that’s just a fantastic cause. And she’s really put everything she has behind it to make it very powerful.

Scott Luton (00:20:19):

I agree with you. I think you picked three out. I mean, all of y’all are picking episodes and you’re bringing back memories and how much on joy learning from all these folks and the three you picked

Chris Barnes (00:20:30):

Really special. Yeah. And one another one more locally is the buzz. I enjoy the bus specifically. The one, it was I think three 89, where we, where you talked about the history of the U S interstate system that that’s, as I traveled, that’s very boring. So it’s right in my wheelhouse. But you know, for 40,000 miles of interstate, the amount of effort it took to get that done, I think how it’s, how it’s had such a tremendous impact on our economy, on the supply chain. We, that we’ve benefited from here in the United States. So that was just an interesting topic. I studied the interstate system quite a bit because it is boring. My only sadness was that he should have made that an episode of supply chain is boring, but just back to a Genoa, if anybody knows that the Baltimore has one of the, one of the few interstates that don’t go anywhere, if you don’t know what that means, they started building interstates.

Chris Barnes (00:21:18):

There was a lot of, you talked about it in your podcast, Scott. Uh, there was a lot of neighborhood resistance to some and they started building one through Baltimore. They that the, the neighborhoods came together and stopped it. So now there’s about a mile stretch and understate that doesn’t go anywhere, but it’s still there and I’ve been on it. Uh, so that’s pretty good. That’s pretty, it’s really boring. And what would I enjoy? What I enjoy most God is, you know, having a chance to listen to the, you know, do the editing. It’s a passion, it’s a labor of love, but you know what we are as, as a, as an organization, Scott, you know, it’s, yeah, you try to be polished. You try to be professional and stuff, but we’re very real, real interviews. I mean, we’re on there, Scott, and you see this all the time, dogs barking in the background, you know, kids coming up, pulling on daddy’s fan, leg trucks in the background, that’s just, that’s who we are. So we’re, we’re kind of a real life podcast kind of right there just showing you what’s happening now. That’s one of the things I enjoy about,

Scott Luton (00:22:08):

Wow, you said you shared a lot there that we should dive into and talk a lot more about, but, but, you know, personally, I am very proud of the authenticity that, that we are committed to here at supply chain now. And whether that is the easy stuff to talk about, whether that’s the very challenging stuff to talk about, which there’s plenty. And if you don’t talk about it and dive into it and engage in the topics, nothing, nothing changes. So I appreciate a lot of what you shared there, Chris, and always a pleasure and looking forward to a lot more great content with supply chain is boring. And of course we appreciate all of your efforts at keeping those episodes rolling out, uh, every day, Monday through Friday, sometimes Saturday. Thank you. All right, man. Uh, Amanda, we should have blocked more time. We’re gonna bring in Amanda Luton, not only my wife, but, uh, equally as important. Our chief marketing officer here at supply chain now could, and couldn’t be here w unless, uh, Amanda has done all of her, all that she’s done through the years. Amanda. Good morning.

Chris Barnes (00:23:07):

I’m excited to be back on the screen though, after Tricia is talking about,

Scott Luton (00:23:16):

We waited too long. If that we’ll wait too long to get all of y’all on the show, you know, um, we do have an episode coming up where we’re going to dive in deeper with

Scott Luton (00:23:25):

Devon and Genoa and clay Phillips. Who’s not here right now with us, but really hear their take and perspective on the market.

Scott Luton (00:23:31):

And we waited too long to get Amanda on there. That episode, that Tricia cornice was talking about. That was a, that was a great time out. Interesting episode. Alright. So Amanda, for folks that may have missed that, you know, tell, tell our audience a little bit about yourself and then of what you do here at spotting out.

Amanda Luton (00:23:46):

I’m Amanda, I’m the chief marketing officer for supply chain. Now I have been working in marketing for what was my minor in college. I, yeah, so, so many years I can barely think back, but I majored in fashion merchandising and a minor in marketing. And it turns out that marketing has, has taken me a bit further, but so I had my own business Magnolia marketing group that has kind of morphed and changed. And the experience that I took from Magnolia marketing, I’ve put into supply chain now. So I manage and I organize the marketing efforts for supply chain now. And as you can tell, I work with a very, very talented team, bright marketing minds. And we work together, you know, to keep the supply chain now engine firing on all cylinders and running as smoothly as possible. I’m also married to the CEO, which is a job self, but I wouldn’t have it any other way. You know, we work together and we worked together pretty well. I think. So

Scott Luton (00:24:43):

You did a good job. That is really in a nutshell. Yeah, you’re absolutely right on so many different fronts. I mean the talent and, and the different way that all these folks that are in the picture right here, you know, Trisha and Chris and Devin and Genoa, and of course Greg and, and clay, and some other folks that, that work with us in broad, different ways, man, what they bring to the table from from different perspectives is so critically important to why we’re here today, celebrating, you know, episode 400, whether it’s story ideas or visibility and marketing ideas of how we position different content, make sure we’re reaching different aspects of the global audience. I mean all the different ideas and equally as important, if not more important action that these folks bring to the table. So, all right. So not to steal your thunder here, Amanda, but let’s talk about your favorite episode or two. And of course, why

Amanda Luton (00:25:34):

I’ve been around, I’m one of the few that’s been around for all 400 episodes. So of course I couldn’t narrow it down to just one, but I wanted to talk about just kind of a couple of topics that I like can, and I do have one, that’s one of my very favorites, but my favorite episodes are ones where the guests have a lot of passion for supply chain. You can tell, by the way that they’re speaking about their jobs, you can tell videos how excited they get about supply chain, which, you know, I don’t come from a supply chain background. I’m not a practitioner. I was never involved in the supply chain industry for a long time. Not only did I not even know what supply chain was, but Chris, I thought it was pretty boring, right? I didn’t know much about it. I’ve learned so much through the years and listening to people and supply chain is something that they really have a passion for.

Amanda Luton (00:26:21):

So I love the guests that come on our show with a lot of passion. Most recently, Radu Pala, Mario Palomar, you, um, pronunciation is a little looky there for me. He was on a live stream and then we produced it into an episode, but he was so passionate about supply chain talent. You could hear it in his voice. You could see it as he was speaking, you know, through the, through the live stream. And I mean was preaching. He was converting the audience and it was just, it was so interesting to watch and it was so fun to watch. I also love the interviews with women of supply chain. You know, some of my very favorites, Claudia fried Devin, I’m right with you. I think she is so inspiring. And one of my good friends, Elva prey, hot Gallagher, um, she has such a mission and she is working so hard.

Amanda Luton (00:27:05):

Um, not only in, in supply chain, but also in her organization, show me 50, which is working to create equality and give women a better chance in a C level positions in leadership with an organization, but just hearing their generous nature and their female perspective, I think is so important. Speaking of important, we had a, an episode, it was a better invoices episode with two female vets that are great leaders, very successful. And, you know, I think rather unexpectedly on our end and on their end on the episode that they were on, they ended up sharing their experience with sexual assaults while they were on active duty. I remember like listening to that episode, I was live tweeting it actually. And I was, it was bringing me to tears because it was such an important story that needed to be told and it was there and, and they were, you know, it was just so moving and they were sharing, um, just their ability to take those experiences and overcome hardships and become real change makers and leaders in their industry.

Amanda Luton (00:28:07):

And it was so inspiring. And I think a lot of women in supply chain need to hear the voices of other women in supply chain and kind of like Tricia said earlier, just to know that they’re not alone and they’re struggling with, with the same issues that they are. I also like interviews, of course, like I said before, I don’t, I don’t have a supply chain background. So I like interviews with veterans supply chain practitioners that can break down these complex concepts with great ease and, you know, make it very easy to understand for people that just don’t know what reverse logistics means. Don’t know what blockchain is, you know, all these things, they can break it down and make these concepts much easier to understand. I love when Mike Rosewall comes on the show, he has a brain for supply chain, but he knows it so well.

Amanda Luton (00:28:52):

I think that he can make the most complex issues or, or, or situations or concepts just seem very simple. He breaks it down and knows how to explain it to people. I like Trish beam from home Depot who, Devon kind of like you said earlier, I find a reverse logistics. Very interesting, because I do, I have a retail background. So, you know, seeing the, the, how returns impact the supply chain and, you know, I never thought before about when I ordered 10 bathing suits from Amazon, just to keep two of them and then return the other aid, how that impacts the supply chain, get myself in trouble maybe. But I think that those are very interesting when we hear those practitioners come on the show and they can break it down really simply, but I will get down to my favorite. If I had to pinpoint one, it was episode one 94 with Keren agro wall.

Amanda Luton (00:29:42):

He’s now he’s a senior strategy analyst at Dell works on their operations and supply chain strategy. He’s a Georgia tech grad that had founded their apex supply chain club. And in the episode, he’s explaining why millennials are perfect for supply chain and how to successfully start your career in supply chain supply chain. But in this episode, he has this youthful optimism that it doesn’t come across as naive, but just a modern perspective on supply chain. That was just so refreshing. And up until that point, I had not heard a perspective like that before about supply chain. It really gave me hope for the future. He was, he gave great advice and he had great outcome for what he was doing. Again, he had this great passion for supply chain, and I can’t imagine anybody that listened to that episode, not feeling refreshed and rejuvenated about their career or not wanting to get into supply chain or not, or give it a thought, at least if they had not thought about supply chain as a career before he just got you really pumped up and excited about supply chain and made you realize that it really is not boring, it’s exciting.

Amanda Luton (00:30:45):

And it can be fun for, you know, somebody coming right out of the college. It’s a great industry to go into. It gave me hope for the future and for supply chain for industry in general and refuted the stereotype that millennials are lazy and entitled and whiny, you know, this guy is making it happen and being an old millennial myself like, like the oldest millennial, you can possibly, I was proud to have him representing the millennial generation. I’m like, see guys, like millennials can make it happen. They can be very impactful. But you know, in, in over 400 episodes, we’ve been so blessed by just dozens and dozens of amazing leaders, incredible stories. And I’m just happy that we have been able to, um, share their wisdom and share their experiences with our audience. So I know that was a long winded answer, but I just couldn’t narrow it down.

Scott Luton (00:31:36):

Now it is Greg White’s turn to weigh in. You’ve heard from the rest of the team. And now one of my regular co-hosts if ongoing, since a trip to Birmingham, Alabama, Greg eight feels like ages ago, but we’ve probably co-hosted some 200 or so episodes easily since then, like closer to 200 5,300. But my account, I don’t remember what episode number that was, but, but spoiler alert. That was my that’s one of my favorites. Well, alright. So before we get into your favorites and before you give us your two thumbs up episodes, tell our audience if they have been had their head in a hole for the last 18 months. Tell us about yourself, Greg, and what you do here at supply chain now. Yeah, sure. So I’m Greg obviously, and I’m a host principal and I’m big fan of the show. I

Scott Luton (00:32:40):

Am the one who changes his hair, the most of the whole company probably. And yeah, I mean, I, you know, I guess my job is really to do what you see me doing every day. It’s to bring you the information, the news, to extract information from all these talented people that we get to share time with and listen, share, argue just a little bit sometimes and kind of evaluate, and as Scott loves to do, give the hot takes, uh, on, you know, the, kind of the takeaways of what, of what people have been talking about on the show. And, uh, I gotta tell you it’s, it is a, I don’t know, it’s, it’s a cool experience. It’s great to be able to do this right. And really enjoy meeting people and learning a lot. Is that what I do, Scott? I think that’s about what I, the only thing I would add is, you know, your, your advisor role, you brought a lot of big picture thinking to our business and organizations, what you do have been doing for years with a bunch of different companies still do.

Scott Luton (00:33:41):

Yeah. And that has shaped our trajectory in many different ways. It got us thinking differently about the business and the industry. So dropped radio that’s our biggest accomplishment might be our biggest accomplishment is dropping radio, right? That is right. And what Greg referring to, to, to our audience is we draw a supply chain. Now radio was what we were the first, you know, a couple of years and in the last six months or so we have taken a variety of steps kind of under the radar to drop radio since it’s kind of it hearkens back to the rear view mirror and years gone past, and we’ve dropped it. And we’re just about to change to supply chain now.com URL is like the final vestige. That’s been tough to, uh, that was an accomplishment in and of itself as, as big as 400 episodes was, was getting that URL.

Scott Luton (00:34:35):

Wasn’t it? I mean, that was an impressive feat. Basically. I got to tell the story, you can’t stop me basically clay, the dog and Amanda, our chief marketing officer, and Scott’s lovely wife camped on this URL. And the moment that it came up available, the moment that the current owner who wasn’t really using it, didn’t pay for it. They jumped all over it and scored it for us. And it’s, I mean, it is, it’s the culmination of what we’ve been trying to accomplish, right? Digital killed the radio star. So as important as what Scott talked about, four words was a lot for people. We were supply chain, radio, supply chain, now supply chain now radio supply chain radio. Now we were everything, but supply chain now radio, it’s even hard for me to remember that now was also, it was also very limiting, especially as in this last year, we really dove head first into all things video. Yeah. You know, for the first, uh, point think, yeah. I’m probably thinking about that. Right.

Scott Luton (00:35:43):

250 episodes, 300, 300 or so episodes with a few exceptions. It was all an audio podcast. And of course at our core, the audio podcast channels that we’ve developed over the years and those, those subscribers and that audience is, is near and dear to our heart. And we’re not going, you know, we’re not,

Scott Luton (00:36:00):

Yeah. We went anywhere and everything still goes out as a podcast. Right. It just might also go out as video, which people love. It’s super engaging. You get to meet the people, really meet the people that, that you’re hearing from. And that’s right. That’s been a great dynamic for us. So yeah, I guess that’s pretty funny that I didn’t even think about the fact that radio would not have gone good with all this vision.

Scott Luton (00:36:23):

Okay. So now that, uh, our, our not only has our audience gotten a chance to put their finger on the pulse with Greg, but you kind of, our audiences kind of seen behind the scenes, some of the things, some of our conversations, how we make the sausage that’s right. So let’s move over to, you know, I, I still man, 400 episodes just still seems a, has it been that long? I keep asking myself, well, I have,

Scott Luton (00:36:50):

It’s been that long, by the way. I mean, if you started this in 2017, right, right. But really the episodes started coming fast and furious in 2019. Right. So have you shared with folks on this session kind of how the progression went a little bit about 17, 18 and 19, how

Scott Luton (00:37:11):

We didn’t earlier on this show? The 400 episode, uh, they, you know, our audience heard from, uh, Manda and Tricia and Chris and Devin and Genoa, and we all kind of focused on what they did in the business and their favorite episodes. We didn’t touch on what you’re asking about, which is kinda how things have evolved, you know, eight, eight total podcasts, all of 2017. And then I think in 2019 alone, we did some 200 episodes, which is crazy. We did touch early on the show, how we’re a bit unique, a bit unique for some, a big chunk industry where, you know, rather than doing a weekly show or a monthly show, which has nothing wrong with that. We are publishing content Monday through Friday, sometimes Saturday. And it really, we do that because covering global supply chain, I mean, even going to go, going to bed at night, you’re going to miss 12 stories. Yeah. Across the scope. That is massive scope. That is global supply chain. So anyway, what else would you add to that

Scott Luton (00:38:15):

Seven? I think 28 and 2018 or something like that. It was 28 or 38, something like that. And then a couple of hundred in 2019. And we’ll probably do, what do you think Scott? 300. That’s a great question.

Scott Luton (00:38:32):

I’m not sure what we’ll do in 2020, but one of the big changes in our business is, you know, the launch of these new shows, new series, much like tequila, sunrise, which Greg has, has created much like tech talk that we’ll be launching with Karin bursa in, in the weeks and months to come much like supply chain is boring, which we touched on earlier.

Scott Luton (00:38:53):

Right. Love that. I mean, seriously, if there’s, if there ever wasn’t a more ironic title for, for some for show, I can’t imagine what it is. Right. And you know,

Scott Luton (00:39:06):

We’re trying to diversify programming, uh, diversify, you know, some folks that love tequila, sunrise may not care for my trivia. Mine did this week in business history and that’s perfectly,

Scott Luton (00:39:18):

You have to file. We expect it so

Scott Luton (00:39:21):

Different channels. We’ll probably at some point

Scott Luton (00:39:23):

Maybe not in this month or next month, but at some point it will certainly add a lot more depth to just the sheer amount of content where we’re producing. Well, it it’ll give folks the opportunity to kind of peel off into the topics that really resonate with them. Right. And if there’s anything that we, I feel like we’re really good at, I’m not bragging on me, everybody I’m bragging on Scott mostly, but I want to say we, if there’s anything that we’re good at, it is in constantly polling and engaging and assessing with our audience and our followers to figure out what they want and to deliver some of what they want. I’ve gotten some great feedback on tequila, sunrise. We’ve only done three episodes. So, and we continue to refine that. As I said, I think in a post somewhere, I said, you know, somebody said, when do you think you’ll be done refining this episode? And I said, I won’t be satisfied until it’s tears of your own up, which is about $350 a bottle. So we’re going to continue to distill it. That’s right. And that is that’s our North star, our audience and

Scott Luton (00:40:30):

What they want and how we can best serve them. You know, that is what drives this business.

Scott Luton (00:40:37):

That’s our commitment. And we touched on that earlier. So Greg, now I’d love

Scott Luton (00:40:42):

To get you to weigh in on some of your favorite segments. Favorite shows, favorite conversations from

Scott Luton (00:40:49):

Yeah. 400 episodes. Yeah. So, well, I tipped my hand a little bit earlier. I got to say one of my favorite episodes was the very first one I did at UAB university of Alabama, Birmingham, where Scott and I, we, we were just kinda talking about advisory and we had been on a logistics summit, executive board together. We’re kind of talking about, Hey, do you think you’d want to do this? And he mentioned on a phone call, I’m going to, I’m going to Birmingham tomorrow. Was it? It was tomorrow. It was the next day. Right. I’m going to Birmingham tomorrow. And, um, you know, it’s five people, it’s several shows and yada yada yada. And he goes, it’s, it’s handful for one person. And I said, I’ll play. Can I play? I think we were both equally astounded at that point. I mean, Scott was like, well, yeah, come on.

Scott Luton (00:41:45):

And I went, did I just say that out loud? But it was great. Wow. The people were so gracious and so talented. And we had such great Mediterranean food right across the street from UAB campus. And we had a great time talking to folks on air and after the fact, and we, you know, what I learned in that moment was that you can learn so much. I’ve been in supply chain for a lot of years as I limit it to no more than two decades, but I learned so much in that one episode. And it just, it just, I don’t know, it just made me more hungry for more learning. So that, that one, I don’t know if it’s my favorite and this list is going to be long, but it was way up there being a guest on the show was very cool. So I was a guest before I was a principal.

Scott Luton (00:42:36):

And when I was the CEO of blue Ridge, I was on the show two or three times, right. Once, or I think, I think was it two or three, you know, uh, that sounds about right. Yeah. Well, it was once was once we had you and Albert Sorto and Albert at the time was with the NMTA and then you made a followup appearance on our leadership matters show a series with will. Yes. Yeah. And I think I might’ve been on one show that, uh, Elba Elba at Gallagher, I think you’re right. And of course a webinar. So you, I mean, you now I’ll think about it. Multiple appearances. Wow. I didn’t know. I, yeah. Anyway, that was fun. It’s a great experience. And that leads me to one of my other, I’m going to have to go with favorite moments. Scott. I can’t write an episode.

Greg White (00:43:28):

There. There is for me, I think for us, because we’re on them, there is an aha moment. There is a pivotal moment. There is a clutch catchphrase in virtually every one of them. But I think I would have to go next with some of my favorite moments are when the cameras, the lights go out, the cameras go off, the mics are off and somebody says, man, you guys made that so easy. That is so gratifying because that’s what we want. We want people to be able to deliver their true selves. I’m pretty excited, man. I can’t even talk,

Scott Luton (00:44:04):

But you know, it’s kind of counterintuitive in this world of constant digital exposure that you would think some of the folks that get interviewed, it kind of is

Scott Luton (00:44:13):

It goes with where we are in 2020. However, the opposite is still true. A lot of folks, most folks

Scott Luton (00:44:21):

I do occasionally you get anxious to get nervous. Cause you know,

Scott Luton (00:44:25):

Got away in. You’re about to tell your story about that. Open up, you know, who you are a little bit, put some cards on the table and that makes a lot of folks anxious. So to your point, Greg, I agree that that’s, that’s some of the most rewarding feedback that we are fortunate to receive about putting people at peace and at ease and just getting them to be more comfortable, opening up and think about how long, how far we have come in the, just over 12 months, 15 months or so that you and I have been working together. I mean, 15 months ago you had to still explain to people what supply chain was 15 months ago. We used to say things like supply chain now has a seat at the table, but it was really still a bit of a seat at the kitty table.

Scott Luton (00:45:10):

And now it’s near the head of the table. Sure. Right. It really is. I mean, supply chain is the identity or is the core identity for so much of a company or, or an initiative. So a recent episode that we did Jenny Froome and Dominique Dominique twinkles. Yeah. Right. Um, from Jenny’s from say pics right in Africa. And Dominique’s statement was no product, no program. And that is so true for retail or distribution or you know, or chemical or industrial or whatever, no product, no program. And people are realizing that after the great toilet paper shortage of 2020, they are realizing that supply chain is in the forefront. Not only from a visibility of product standpoint, but also from expressing your sustainability or expressing your commitment to equality or your commitment to fair trade. Right. You know, I’m a Hawk on this slavery topic. Yes.

Scott Luton (00:46:19):

It repre your supply chain and everyone in it represents your brand and you have to be completely aware of that. So that’s, that’s how far we’ve come in just over a year. Yup. I got a quick bulletin from our friend Malcolm. Uh, I got Dominic’s last name, wrong. It’s Dominic. Zincalume Winkles with people that deliver. And she, she and that organization have a fascinating story behind them. One of my favorite episodes too. I did not know that Malcolm was monitoring this. I thought we were home free to do whatever we want. So, okay. So I’m going to have to probably go quick or this is going to be a 40 minute episode itself. So any episode with Tandra, Bellamy is one of my favorite episodes. Cindy Lago, when we were at, was at Flexport, we were at the bank of America’s center, her bust and chops about some brilliant thing.

Scott Luton (00:47:07):

She said, I think it was something of one, what goes Scott it’s in our sizzle reel, right? It’s lot of one, the shipment of whatever. It was all about customization in the supply chain. And I start, I started writing it down and she said, what are you trademark in that anytime we had real fun on the show, like when Kathy Mora Robinson tells me to hush, um, you know, and, and anytime, and, and when Tyson Stephens actually made talking about pallets. Interesting. Yes, I was abs absolutely enthralled by the discussion of pallets and you know, the realization that I had come to was, you know, having been in purchasing and in merchandising in retail, I didn’t really care about the palette. I said, I want that you people in those dark rooms make that magic happen. Right. But the pallet can lend to the quality and the speed of the shipment, all of those things and Tyson Tyson’s incredible.

Scott Luton (00:48:09):

Check them out pallet Alliance, they’re going to be making a repeat appearance soon. He a that’s right. He brings a lot beyond all the business insights and, and the things that you’d never would even think about when it comes to pallets and, and the right pallets and, and you name it, the sense of humor. Tyson brings that, that, yeah, that is part of the rewarding aspects of our journey. People like that quotes Kevin Bell. It is it’s Kevin Bell. Right? Agg it’s possible. I might get this wrong. So please correct me. But this is how I remember it. It’s possible to take advantage of an opportunity without being opportunistic. And that was right at the start of the coronavirus. Right. Maybe dammit. Right. So yeah, timely poignant, brilliant, subtle. And from the heart too, I mean, he had, he didn’t have that written down. He came up with that off the top of his head.

Scott Luton (00:49:01):

So those kinds of moments, Chris Barnes, when we were at a CSC MP local round table, when you could still do that, which seems like a hundred years ago now. Right. We were sitting there talking about one of my favorite topics at the time provenance and Chris Barnes goes all the way back to laughing, which was in reruns when we were all children. And, um, and also the Muppet show, right? Not probably not where Chris comes up with this. And that’s another reason that supply chain is boring, is not boring is because Chris has such a rapier like wit and ability. He’s just so he’s just so on it all the time, everything he says, you better be looking for, have a laugh track on, um, certainly one of the most OB observant individuals that is, he doesn’t miss much he’s is like a Hawk.

Scott Luton (00:50:04):

Yeah. Alright. So Greg, to your point, we, you and I could sit here and talk business for hours on let’s man, wait, let me, let me, or you shut me down. Come on. There’s a anytime also, anytime it was old home week, Mike Griswold, who I know from when he was our analyst at blue Ridge and KIRO, when I was running companies back in the day, brilliant practitioner, we still meet with him about once a month, Diego [inaudible] anytime I get together with him, it’s like old home week. We were at mode X and that show was gold. It was fun. It was fun for us because we were geeking out. Right. Um, it might not have been that interesting for anybody else and any time, any single time, I am in the same room with Mike Mills, one of my cofounders at blue Ridge, one of the remaining OGs at blue Ridge, still with them and still making stuff happen.

Scott Luton (00:51:04):

And I just love that guy. Every time we get together, it’s like a mind-meld we can finish each other’s sentences. So I just love anytime that we’re doing that. Our greed. Yeah. Yeah. It definitely, it felt as an observer there, it felt like that. Well, uh, Greg, as it was said earlier in this show, 400 down now we’re on the journey to 800 hundred to go. Uh, but it’s been, you know, I’d say if this next 400 for that matter for the next 40 or anything, like what we’ve seen these in this first six, this first 400. Yep. We better buckle up because it is really just such a, um, Hey look, we’re the luckiest people in the world that have this, this job, this, this role, this responsibility of sitting down and hearing and learning from a wide plethora of different folks from across the world of global supply chain and at a time, as you suggested where it, it really is Scott a seat, not at the kiddie table as you put it, but at the real table near the head of it, nothing happens without supply chain.

Scott Luton (00:52:11):

And, uh, it’d be really interesting in the months and years ahead to see how the industry continues to evolve. Yeah, I think so too. And there’s, you know, there’s so many people in this industry ready to step up and that’s, what’s so encouraging is I don’t want to say people have been waiting for a moment like this, but it seems like it doesn’t it. I mean, you know, again, Rick McDonald, Sandra McQuillan people like this, who’ve really had to perform at a high level and get their teams to perform at a high level. They have stepped up and made it happen. And you know, if they didn’t predict this, which nobody did on the entire planet, if they didn’t predict this, they recovered really rapidly and they showed incredible grace and leadership in doing so. So, yup. I know that all the leaders, I know that all the practitioners, I know that everyone driving a forklift, like I did push in a push in a handcart like I did stock an oil on the shelf like I did. Right. I think running a register like I did, like many of us have done all of those people on the frontline, on the back line, never to be seen in some cases, but certainly impacting supply chain. Every

Scott Luton (00:53:26):

One of those people is stepping up right now. And these 400 episodes are for those people. We’ll put an own that note. Big, thanks to you, Greg white and Bucklin would just now get, we’re still just getting started. 400 episodes deep. I know it’s crazy. Isn’t it? That’s right. Hey, thanks Greg. Yep. I love each of those episodes and I’ve really enjoyed each of you sharing. Um, we all have a personal connection with these conversations that we’re part of and to hear each of y’all share different ones that, that struck a certain way with you really takes me back and I can almost remember the days and, and where we were and what else was going through my mind as, as we were processing these incredible stories that folks share. And it reminds me exactly why we’re doing what we’re doing. It is a passion and, and to each of y’all, which have touched on it in some way, shape or form, these are stories that need to be told it’s views that need to be shared.

Scott Luton (00:54:27):

It’s a platform that has to be built and because we’re conveying these messages and these best practices and these experiences and in these mistakes, you know, we learn equally as much from the mistakes as we do from the winds and everything out. So I want to share a few of mine, but for me it’s more about, well, all of us have talked about the story. This is what resonates with us, right? Storytelling is so important these days, especially in this information overload, right? And we’ve got so much coming at us in the passionate stories. I mean, for me, they see Watson from the Georgia ports authority. He talked about dirt trees and chickens. And that was kind of a theme of that show because those are the major exports that the Georgia ports, you know, sends out that feels to me, ships, Peggy Gullett from AGCO, talked about a real practical innovation, as well as being a female leader, kind of her journey.

Scott Luton (00:55:21):

And some of the things she’s learned in particular know, don’t be afraid if you don’t have all the skills in a new position. And don’t be afraid to say no, because every opportunity is not the right opportunity. Love Peggy. We got to get her back on the students. The students has been one of my favorite highlights, Devin and Genoa working with and rubbing elbows and learning from these incredibly bright minds that have a different take on the important stuff, not just the supply chain, but in business. And frankly in life now, Morgan state university, a UGA here locally, Georgia tech, of course, Bradley university, Chris’s Alma mater. They won a case competition a year or two ago. We interviewed them. That was a pleasure. Uh, the university, you know, we spent time in Birmingham with the university of Alabama at Birmingham. That was a highlight for me, uh, were Greg and I were, were there local.

Scott Luton (00:56:14):

Uh, and you know, on that note really missing, you know, I love this, I love the zoom calls, but being in studio with folks and really that comradery kindred spirits, that it’s almost, it really is irreplaceable. As folks are sharing. What’s really important to them. That’s next to impossible to replicate replicate. So I’m really looking forward to being back whether S new studio at point a or, or really some new space over at King plow with the vector global logistics team, Sheila censor with Panera, their hiring policy and remember what that was no jerks allowed. And it’s just simple. It cuts straight to, you know what, we’re all probably thinking, you know, who’s got time to work with jerks. No one does, right. Life’s too short. Sherrick a Sanders PhD was an outstanding episode. She was a 2017 hidden figure of Dallas and her journey

Scott Luton (00:57:10):

And her approach to,

Scott Luton (00:57:12):

You know, always constantly putting an eye on giving back. That was a very special episode. And one of the early full access episodes we had, and Amanda, you touched on it. What, I wasn’t sure if any of y’all were going to share it, but, you know, as, as exciting and as rewarding as it is to, to embrace all the great uplifting, enlightening, positive stories, the challenging stories are we’ve got to talk about and got to lean into and engage. And, you know, to hear two strong women, female leaders unexpectedly share about sexual assault on active duty. That was heartbreaking, but it was also a learning moment. I think, hopefully not just for me, but a lot of folks. And we’re seeing a lot of that play out thankfully in the news now, and hopefully get a lot better, uh, for folks currently serving, you know, cause change is so important.

Scott Luton (00:58:09):

So all of these stories, all, all of what y’all have shared, you’ve made our weekend. You’ve made our week. You’ve made our month. We couldn’t be here publishing episode 400 without each of you. So big, thanks to Trisha and Chris and Devin and Genoa. And of course Amanda, because Amanda does have some sub stressed from me to do it behind the scenes. And we couldn’t be here without all of her good work and support, of course, a big thanks to our audience. We wouldn’t be here. I mean, our audience is why we do what we do. We take very seriously the mission to give voice to industry.

Scott Luton (00:58:45):

I give voice to global supply chain

Scott Luton (00:58:47):

To our audience, let us know how can we help you? How can we serve you better? What, what do you want to learn more about

Chris Barnes (00:58:53):

Chris? Yeah. Can I, if I can just throw a challenge out to our audience, that’s listening, uh, specifically to the, the college students. And I thought about it when Amanda mentioned or the interview with Odwalla, she referenced it in that interview. One thing that he did and Genoa referenced it and went in her conversation, I’m not going to say what it is, but it’s an indicator of success and which, which tells me Jenna was going to be successful just like our wellness. If you think, you know what it is, send me a note and I’ll tell you love that.

Scott Luton (00:59:22):

I love that little, little surprise challenge, their audience. There’s a secret to success there, Chris. And by the way, if you can’t tell Chris doesn’t miss anything, it’s one of the most observant folks I’ve ever met. But yeah, I love really appreciative of all the efforts really appreciative of, of course, all of our sponsors and contributors in particular, in Rica Alvarez at vector global logistics, early believer in an embracer, if that’s a word of this mission role and what we’re committed to. So really appreciate his continual partnership. And on that note, we’re going to,

Amanda Luton (00:59:57):

Uh, there would be no supply chain now without Scott Luton. So I think, you know, these 400 episodes are a Testament to the work that he does and, you know, the passion that he puts into this organization, this podcast, this media group, everything that supply chain now has, has morphed into. So I think the passion that we see in our guests is, is, you know, echoed by his passion and the passion that he has for supply chain now. So, you know, we’re all here because you work hard and because we want to work hard for you and we see your enthusiasm and we see what it can do and how it can impact the audience. And so just want to mention that that you’re a big reason for, for what we do and for the impact that supply chain now is making.

Scott Luton (01:00:42):

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Amanda Luton (01:00:46):

Cause he will never say it himself,

Scott Luton (01:00:50):

You know, thanks for sharing, but it is, it is about the listener. It’s about the folks that come on and, and, and share their message and their story and their, and their journey. And, you know, I, I’ve got the best job in the world cause you know, we collectively get a chance of facilitate that and share that. So we’ve got to close out as much as I’d love to hear. I’d love to go back around the horn and hear more from each of y’all you really, I can’t tell you enough how special this is for me. And I’m sure for Amanda too, and what you do, and most more importantly, what you’re thinking and your perspective and your insights is so important. It fuels the business that fuels what this journey we’re on. And I can’t, we can’t thank y’all enough to our audience. Uh, again, thanks for tuning in for this special 400 episode as Chris and Amanda reference, where now is to drive to 800, right? Uh, it it’s, um, it’s very special, appreciate you tuning in, you know, find us and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts from. You know, the challenge that we, that we’ve been closing shows with, we’re challenging ourselves with this as just as much as we’re challenged our audience, but a do good, uh, give forward and be the change that’s needed and own that.